tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post8416980257331067729..comments2023-03-27T05:00:35.508-04:00Comments on Grace Emerges: On Christ and ChristianityGraceEmergeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11958580545720947207noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-46858826540006123122012-11-09T21:12:42.582-05:002012-11-09T21:12:42.582-05:00Wow.... How does he want us to use the Bible? I...Wow.... How does he want us to use the Bible? I will answer to God and you will answer to God. That is all I can say. It has been enlightening for me.Pattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922106103220056071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-52919508671699106952012-11-09T08:48:39.647-05:002012-11-09T08:48:39.647-05:00I believe I am following Jesus by teaching others ...I believe I am following Jesus by teaching others that their words are judgmental rather than loving. Literal interpretation of the Bible can be used to show both sides of the coin: grace and judgment. But I don't think God wants us to use that Bible in that fashion. It's okay to discuss truth.GraceEmergeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11958580545720947207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-17250805478935450202012-11-09T07:39:02.860-05:002012-11-09T07:39:02.860-05:00I don't care about what other people think or ...I don't care about what other people think or say on this issue. I try and live my life according to what God thinks. Leviticus 20:13, I Cor. 6:9-11. In the last days, there will be wolves in sheeps clothing. I choose to follow God, not man. You are leading others astray if you do not believe and follow God's word. Pattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922106103220056071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-39902527458498762672012-11-08T22:22:32.294-05:002012-11-08T22:22:32.294-05:00Where did I say that I didn't like homosexuals...Where did I say that I didn't like homosexuals? I said that the Bible, Gods Word, says that homosexuality is a sin. There was no judgement implied. Why did you take it that way? I was saying what the Bible says. What do you think the Bible says about it?<br />Pattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922106103220056071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-90213647944403138102012-11-07T21:56:36.502-05:002012-11-07T21:56:36.502-05:00Patti, I certainly would have agreed with you some...Patti, I certainly would have agreed with you some time ago. But now I'm pretty sure that God doesn't need us to defend his Word. God needs us to let God do his job. "Vengeance is mine, says the Lord" means that God really doesn't need any of our help in judging the world. <br /><br />So let's look for our true calling as Christians, which is to be carriers of the good news. Who is going to feed the world? Is God going to send manna from heaven? Or is he going to send his people to bring literal kindness and compassion? Jesus prayed "Give us this day our daily bread" and "thy kingdom come". How are these things going to happen?<br /><br />On the other hand, if we bring judgment instead, we are wasting our time.<br /><br />Just my opinion -- your opinions are also welcome on this site.GraceEmergeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11958580545720947207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-87825200156693748112012-11-07T21:51:03.421-05:002012-11-07T21:51:03.421-05:00Sometimes we value being right so much we don'...Sometimes we value being right so much we don't see that our enforcement of right is not kind. I think we intend to be loving, but looking at it from the other person's point of view shows that we are not. <br /><br />If we're really trying to be loving, maybe there's a better way to do it. Forget about being right, and just focus on the love.GraceEmergeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11958580545720947207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-30539080492299152392012-11-07T19:51:51.707-05:002012-11-07T19:51:51.707-05:00Is that what Brad is calling for though, Patti? Lo...Is that what Brad is calling for though, Patti? Loving people and loving the things they do, are two different things. When Jesus interacted with the woman caught in adultery (John chapter 8), he told to stop her sinning, but he still loved her and discouraged the others from stoning her. Sure homosexual sex is sinful (Romans chapter 1 etc), but the church still needs to love homosexuals. At present, many homosexuals think that Christians hate them, when actually Christians are supposed to love everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-73647171432787474012012-11-07T19:44:39.331-05:002012-11-07T19:44:39.331-05:00Elissa, of course pointing out the sins of others ...Elissa, of course pointing out the sins of others can be loving! Are you saying that leaving people to do stupid stuff rather than encouraging them away from it, is a 'loving' choice?<br />What's sad is when the pointing out of the sins of others is done in a judgemental way, or when it's done to non-Christians. But for one Christian to not lovingly point out the sin of another Christian, may be sin itself! The beginning of the 6th chapter of Galations covers this quite well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-50538319611109036102012-11-07T18:55:40.440-05:002012-11-07T18:55:40.440-05:00So, am I understanding that you are going to write...So, am I understanding that you are going to write a "new" Bible to have these changes in it so we love everyone and things they do? There is no black or white and everyone is okay? Be careful.... God's Word is just that. God's. Don't play with changing it. If he says homosexuality is wrong...it is wrong.Pattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922106103220056071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-15484229848563295242012-11-05T22:32:27.362-05:002012-11-05T22:32:27.362-05:00Yes you nailed it. The discussion can go on a lon...Yes you nailed it. The discussion can go on a long time where the one side is arguing that standing up for God, against sins, is loving the other person and pleasing to God. <br /><br />But if someone did that to them, would they feel like it was loving? Love should look like it from both sides. GraceEmergeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11958580545720947207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-52235567802731606702012-11-05T22:29:42.071-05:002012-11-05T22:29:42.071-05:00Totally agree it's fear. I've found this ...Totally agree it's fear. I've found this fear in myself now that I'm looking for it. Praying for more courage....GraceEmergeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11958580545720947207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-41280119567670180232012-11-05T15:32:48.720-05:002012-11-05T15:32:48.720-05:00Thank you for this. What I've found is that Ch...Thank you for this. What I've found is that Christians are really believing pointing out other's sins IS being "loving." And I find this so sad. What a view of God they must have! God has never failed to slap me upside the head when I need it, but He is ALWAYS encouraging and accepting of me. We Christians seem to forget that non-Christians see God through us. What kind of God are we portraying? <br /><br />My heart breaks for the things being said and done in Christ's name. Keep writing!Elissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09345838277771441420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-32916244796338723092012-11-05T11:54:43.241-05:002012-11-05T11:54:43.241-05:00Thank you, Brad. I'm challenged daily to &quo...Thank you, Brad. I'm challenged daily to "walk the talk". I question what my own beliefs are aligned with when I see these types of exclusion. I believe most of them are fear-based. When did we become so afraid of one another? GoGohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01117375536414232422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2023319744527233421.post-35790972726027921082012-11-05T08:52:35.817-05:002012-11-05T08:52:35.817-05:00Amen. SharingAmen. SharingCarole LIMHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03369954788441514791noreply@blogger.com